Cloudflare forces consumers onto higher tiers with threats of shutdowns
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Background[edit | edit source]
Cloudflare is a(n) American based Content Delivery Network (CDN) that focuses on serving content for the world wide web, has taken part in concerning upselling behaviors for their hosting services. Such examples include:
- Users being pitched aggressively to enterprise despite the lack of clear agreement and what would improve[1][2]
- Users denying the upgrade and then shortly after have sites removed and their account restricted[3]
- Lack of basic business courtesy forcing the customer to bounce around multiple teams (from weeks to months) to resolve a dispute or force bad press for a response[4][5]
- Shutting down your account and purging your sites if they catch wind on the customers plan on moving to a competitor[6]
- "Imaginative Pricing" telling users the plan they need to use based on how much there willing to spend[7]
Shutdown Paying consumer for rejecting enterprise[edit | edit source]
Across many incidents involving Cloudflare,[citation needed] they used their marketing department as a tool to force their users into paying a large sum of cash towards their services, giving vague or otherwise untrustworthy reasons, such as breaching an arbitrary traffic limit,[6] despite marketing towards consumers that they have unlimited bandwidth.[8][9][10][11]
In early 2024, Cloudflare persistently pitched their Enterprise plan to one such consumer's company, demanding payment of $120,000 up front.[6] While it was discovered later that this was due to a breach of Cloudflare's Terms of Use,[12] as Casinos and other legally questionable websites are required to provide their own IP via their BYOIP service,[13] there was a lack of clear communication towards the consumer to do so. During attempts to contact other departments of Cloudflare, such as Billing and Trust and Safety, the Marketing department persistently overtook handling the case, even causing tickets to be hastily closed.[6]
This caused a considerable amount of unrest for the business, and shortly after the consumer's business mentioned intending to switch to a competitor over the situation, Cloudflare purged all infrastructure for the consumer's web services, including DNS records, email infrastructure, and even the website itself.[6] The user who reported on this claimed that this was malicious considering the coincidental timing.[6] Commenters on the article and other consumers are however mixed on this theory,[14][15][16] especially as the author's admissions to working for an online casino[6] has influenced some negative bias.
Cloudflare's response[edit | edit source]
In a now deleted comment from a Cloudflare employee[17] preserved by another user, they insulted the user reporting on their incident. Claims included breaching traffic limits, the Terms of Use, and more, despite a lack of consistent communication beyond their marketing department.[6]
Consumer response[edit | edit source]
This overreach has scared consumers into leaving Cloudflare, as the web infrastructure they set up has either been damaged by Cloudflare's actions,[18][6] or are too wary by these actions to desire further using Cloudflare.[19][20] Both kinds of consumers have both shown outrage towards this incident.[14][15][16][21][22]
Despite how sparse it is, some news platforms have also covered this incident.[23]
References[edit | edit source]
- ↑ stillicidious (Nov 24, 2021). "AWS free tier data transfer expansion". ycombinator. Retrieved Mar 30, 2025.
- ↑ thr0waway939 (May 11, 2022). "Tell HN: Don't Use Cloudflare". ycombinator. Retrieved Mar 30, 2025.
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: CS1 maint: numeric names: authors list (link) - ↑ tardis_thad (Feb 3, 2023). "Small SaaS banned by Cloudflare after 4 years of being paying customer". ycombinator. Retrieved Mar 30, 2025.
- ↑ "Cloudflare Reviews | Read Customer Service Reviews of cloudflare.com". TrustPilot. 2025-03-31. Retrieved 2025-03-31.
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: CS1 maint: url-status (link) - ↑ Windows, Gardinia (2023-06-16). "Very Poor Customer Service - Feedback - Cloudflare Community". Cloudflare. Retrieved 2025-03-31.
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: CS1 maint: url-status (link) - ↑ Jump up to: 6.0 6.1 6.2 6.3 6.4 6.5 6.6 6.7 6.8 Dev, Robin (May 26, 2024). "Cloudflare took down our website after trying to force us to pay 120k$ within 24h". Robin's Substack. Retrieved Mar 30, 2025.
- ↑ stillicidious (2023-11-24). "I've seen Cloudflare Enterprise accounts for two clients, the current one is pay... | Hacker News". ycombinator. Retrieved 2025-03-31.
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: CS1 maint: url-status (link) - ↑ Mike (Jan 9, 2016). "How can CloudFlare offer a free CDN with unlimited bandwidth?". Stack Exchange - Webmasters. Retrieved Apr 3, 2025.
- ↑ geekyrahulvk (Jun 19, 2020). "Is cloudflare bandwidth truly unlimited ?". r/CloudFlare. Retrieved Apr 3, 2025.
- ↑ Johna (Mar 1, 2021). "Limit Bandwidth for Free Plan?". Cloudflare community. Retrieved Apr 3, 2025.
- ↑ Cloudflare. "How Cloudflare CDN works". Cloudflare Docs. Retrieved Apr 3, 2025.
- ↑ Cloudflare (Sep 26, 2024). "Terms of Use". Cloudflare. Retrieved Apr 3, 2025.
- ↑ Cloudflare. "Cloudflare BYOIP docs". Cloudflare Docs. Retrieved Apr 3, 2025.
- ↑ Jump up to: 14.0 14.1 Hacker News. "Cloudflare took down our website after trying to force us to pay 120k$ within 24h". daily.dev. Retrieved Apr 2, 2025.
- ↑ Jump up to: 15.0 15.1 Cui, Yan (May 29, 2024). "Tweet from Yan Cui". X (formerly Twitter). Retrieved Apr 2, 2025.
- ↑ Jump up to: 16.0 16.1 that.map.guy.craig (Jun 6, 2024). "Comment from that.map.guy.craig". Threads. Retrieved Apr 2, 2025.
- ↑ Cloudflare staff (May 27, 2024). "Cloudflare took down our website - Comments". Robin's Substack. Retrieved Mar 30, 2025.
- ↑ malikNF (May 31, 2022). "Ask HN: Has Cloudflare blocked your domain without explaining what's going on?". ycombinator. Retrieved Mar 30, 2025.
- ↑ lexx (Jan 3, 2023). "Ok, Cloudflare I am leaving". ycombinator. Retrieved Mar 30, 2025.
- ↑ Gimbel, Kevin (27 May 2024). "RE: Cloudflare took down our website after trying to force us to pay 120k$ within 24h". kevingimbel.de. Retrieved Apr 2, 2025.
- ↑ Mia’s Simulacrum (May 26, 2024). "Post from Mia". lgbtqia.space (a Mastodon instance). Retrieved Apr 2, 2025.
- ↑ Bjarnason, Baldur (27 May 2024). "Scumbag versus Scumbag". baldurbjarnason.com. Retrieved Apr 2, 2025.
- ↑ Matt, Milano (Jun 4, 2024). "Cloudflare Surprises Customer With $120,000 Shakedown". Web Pro News. Retrieved Apr 2, 2025.
Further Viewing[edit | edit source]
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- ↑ ThePrimeTime (Jun 3, 2024). "Its Looking Bad For Cloudflare". YouTube. Retrieved Mar 30, 2025.
- ↑ ThePrimeTime (May 28, 2024). "Cloudflare: Pay Me 120k Or We Shut You Down". YouTube. Retrieved Apr 2, 2025.
- ↑ Lambert, Dmitry (Jul 17, 2024). "Cloudflare: Pay Us 120k Tomorrow Or We Shut You Down". YouTube - Tech Hub TV. Retrieved Apr 2, 2025.