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Volkswagen car locations and identities revealed due to security fail
- Channel: Louis Rossmann
- Video: Volkswagen car locations and identities revealed due to security fail
- Date: 2024-12-28
- Description:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EozPi1qmH44?t=60
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nXVljRUnoc
https://www.ccc.de/en/updates/2024/das-ist-vollig-entgleist
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/23846414-nhtsa-letter/
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AI Summary
This video discusses a security fail by Volkswagen, where customer data was left publicly accessible due to a misconfiguration. Louis Rossmann explains how this is not an isolated incident and that car manufacturers are often guilty of compromising their customers' security and privacy. He emphasizes the need for consumers to push back against these practices and demand better security measures.
Car Manufacturers Collecting Personal Data
Car manufacturers, including General Motors, Nissan, Ford, Toyota, and Honda, collect vast amounts of personal data from vehicle owners without consent. This data includes location information, driving habits, and other sensitive details. Rossmann argues that this is not necessary for the functioning of modern cars and that consumers should be able to opt out of this data collection.
Security Failures by Car Manufacturers
Volkswagen's security fail, where customer data was left publicly accessible, is just one example of a larger problem. Rossmann notes that car manufacturers often prioritize profits over security and that their systems are vulnerable to hacking. He cites the example of General Motors' use of admin 1 2 3 45 as a password, which is not secure.
The Right to Repair
Rossmann references the right to repair ballot initiative in Massachusetts, which aimed to give consumers access to the tools and information needed to repair their own vehicles. Despite opposition from car manufacturers, the initiative passed. Rossmann argues that this is an important step towards giving consumers more control over their own data.
Creating a Consumer Protection Wiki
Rossmann announces his plan to create a consumer protection wiki, where he will document instances of companies screwing over their customers. He hopes to create a centralized database that ordinary consumers can contribute to and use to make informed buying decisions.
The Importance of Security Audits
Rossmann emphasizes the need for car manufacturers to conduct security audits on their systems. He notes that Carrie Guiles from the National Highway Transport Association (NHTSA) wrote a letter warning automotive manufacturers about the risks of hacking into cars, which could lead to vehicle crashes, injuries, or deaths.
Avoiding Cultural Wars
Rossmann stresses the importance of avoiding cultural wars over issues like electric vehicles versus internal combustion engines. He argues that consumers should focus on holding car manufacturers accountable for their security and privacy practices rather than engaging in unnecessary debates.
AI Transcription
hey everybody how's it going hope you
having a lovely day remember when we
tried to get that ballot initiative
passed in Massachusetts in 2020 the
right to repair ballot initiative so
that Automotive mechanics and
independent mechanics would be able to
have access to what they need the tools
the programming the documentation be
able to repair your car U that did pass
but the it passed with a lot of
opposition General mortars Ford Nissan
Toyota and Honda spent about $25 million
producing commercials saying that people
would be able to get access to the data
inside your vehicle they'd be able to
control your vehicle they get access to
your location and they would use it to
sexually assault you stalk you through a
parking lot rape you break into your
garage and one of the questions that
came up in my audience when they saw
these garbage commercials
was why is my car collecting all this
information I mean to begin with and why
would somebody be able to control my car
remotely even if they are from the
manufacturer and that's a great question
the problem with a lot of the what's in
modern cars is not even that your modern
car has technology is that your modern
car has technology akin to Microsoft
Windows XP Service Pack 1 which is
pretty much means a Swiss cheese of
virtually anybody can get access to the
data in your car whether we're talking
about General Motors which is taking
your information on your driving your
turning radius when you stop what time
you drive and where you go selling that
information to Lexus Nexus without your
consent selling that information to
insurance companies that then use that
as a justification to raise your rates
or companies that just make your
location data available to any Tom Dick
or Harry that has basic AWS systems
Administration knowledge it is usually
the manufacturer that is guilty of what
it is they are blaming independent
mechanics and independent repair people
of they they try to scare you out of
being able to own what you bought and
paid for with garbage like this before I
get into today's news let's just recap
because this is a video that has been
virtually scrubbed from the internet
since that ballot initiative was done do
keep in mind General Motors Nissan Ford
Toyota and Nissan all spent $25 million
combined to have these commercials aired
all across the state in Massachusetts in
2020 to try to scare you out of being
able to go to an independent
mechanic if question one passes in
Massachusetts anyone could ask access
the most personal data stored in your
vehicle domestic violence Advocates say
a sexual predator could use the data to
stalk their victims pinpoint exactly
where you are whether you are alone even
take control of your
vehicle vote no on one keep your data
safe Volkswagen was using carad to store
terabytes of customer data in AWS and
due to a misconfiguration these storage
instances were left publicly accessible
without proper restrictions or
authentication AKA similar to the United
States nuclear codes between the early
60s to late '70s no seriously that was a
thing guess what the password was to
that for about 12
years this is another instance of the
automotive manufacturer or the
manufacturer in general accusing the
independent repair technician or just
you as a car owner of what it is that
they're doing they're saying that by
trying to make things more reparable
that we are making them more dangerous
that we are a danger to privacy and
security and your person personal data
every single time you hear the
manufacturer discuss security and
privacy and safety they're usually the
ones that are actually exposing or
compromising your security privacy and
safety and they are deflecting and using
those reasons on Independent repair
shops independent mechanics or people
that simply want the ability to own what
they bought and paid for yet in reality
when you take a look at their own
actions whether it is their their
incompetence with regards to systems
Administration or their intentional
You by selling your personal
data without your consent to insurance
brokers and Lexus Nexus with by
did you ever say yes to that it's
usually them that are doing what they're
blaming you of and this is something
that's probably going to continue and
continue and continue until people start
pushing back against it now one thing
that's really important here is to ask
this question of the manufacturer which
is why does my car have uh why is my car
tracking me everywhere I go to begin
with if I am not using the GPS why can't
I simply turn that off if I'm not
using the map why isn't there like a
switch that I can flip that simply
disables this if I don't want that to be
on all the time more importantly
why is it that somebody would be able to
take control of my vehicle if somebody
can take control of my vehicle simply
because a repair mechanic has access to
a repair tool that is akin to me being
able to hack into my bank as FTP server
because I have filezilla on my computer
if having a FTP client on my computer is
enough to hack into my bank's FTP server
that means that my bank's FTP server
likely has the username of admin and the
password of 1 2 345 that is not real
security that is security through
obscurity which is not actually security
and any CIS admin that has been working
for longer than one day knows this but
apparently the individuals working for
the car manufacturers don't nor do their
lobbyists my goal is to have as many
people as possible ask that question of
listen if you're talking about my safety
and my security and my personal data why
the is my car collecting my
personal data and why is it so difficult
to opt out of that and why do you keep
selling that data other people the thing
that I think is most important above all
is to avoid having this turned into a
cultural war I've seen many sides
talking about how this is an electric
car thing this is an electrical vehicle
thing those evil electric vehicles are
at fault and this is a great way to
create this like Democrat versus
Republican conservative versus liberal
fight where we ignore the fact that it
is the car companies that are us
every single car to date that you can
purchase that's new virtually all of
them have a little screen on it they
have a GPS and they have the ability to
do navigation within the vehicle what
that means is that this will occur
whether you have an internal combustion
engine vehicle whether you're using
normal fuel whether you are using diesel
whether you are using premium or whether
you are charging your car in your garage
this occurs whether you have a hybrid
vehicle a fully electric vehicle a
plug-in hybrid or a standard old gas car
whether it is your F350 turbo diesel
your Toyota Prius or your Tesla Model 3
this is something that is going to
affect everybody because modern cars
have computers in them and the computers
are not the enemy I like having
computers in my devices I like when my
devices are smart but my devices must be
smart on my terms I must be the one
that's controlling them not the
manufactur I do not want to see all this
push back against technology nor do I
want to see this nonsense where people
are arguing back and forth over electric
vehicles as if that matters my bicycle
is electric it has a great FOC motor
controller on it it does not connect to
the internet unless I wanted to and the
technology is controlled by me I love
the fact that I can program my electric
bike I love the fact that I can utilize
new technology in all these different
spaces I like the fact that I could
control my air conditioner from anywhere
I want in the world I like the fact that
I have Smart cameras in my house but
those smart cameras are controlled by me
they do not connect to the internet
unless I want them to and I can review
the source code that is running on them
at any given time to ensure that they
actually work okay not me I'm a
idiot but I could have other people
review the source code on it that have
actually passed chapter one of Dennis
Richie C programming language book which
two years and I'm still uh in
all seriousness I my biggest fear here
is that this turns into some nonsensical
culture War where you have the the
people that like the Lites versus the
tech enthusiasts and at the end or the
electric car people versus the F350
turbo diesel people and it really
shouldn't be something like that it
should be all these people coming
together and looking at the car
manufacturer and saying a put a
switch on that car that allows me to
turn the off and B above all why
the are you using admin 1 2 3 45 as
your username and
password not the exact issue here but
you get my point why don't you allow me
to easily opt out of this stuff or
easily turn it off when I'm not using it
there is no reason for my car to have an
active GPS if I am not actively using
the navigation there is no reason for my
car to be online when I do not want it
to be and it should be as simple as
flipping a switch to turn all the
off B if you are going to have all this
crap in the car can you at the very
least have some security audits done
because by admitting that this is
insecure when Carrie gules from Nitsa
comes out and says that there are
genuine security issues and how people
could hack into the car and up your
car which I talk about in this video
over here she wrote a nitel letter right
after this right to repair initiative
passed through the court to tell all the
automotive manufacturers by the way
don't listen to this this is dangerous
this is going to hurt your data vehicle
crashes injuries or deaths are
foreseeable outcomes of such a situation
the issue is not whether the repair tool
is in the hands of the manufacturer the
independent mechanic the issue is in the
complete lack of security in your
systems to begin with if you have
created a system where you never
expected anybody else to have access to
it you're probably going to be a little
LAX in your systems Administration if
you decided that I don't know you don't
want to pay the engineers to do it you
want to spend that money somewhere else
like 25 million dollars on
commercials weaponizing
people's sexual assault experiences this
is all all of this is complete
the blame needs to be where it belongs
with the manufacturer don't fight with
your neighbor because he has an electric
car and you have a TBO diesel don't
fight with your neighbor cuz you're a
lite and they're a tech Enthusiast put
the blame where it belongs the tech
manufacturer and the ass Regulators
that allow this to happen I'm expected
to have better security from my
magenta web store where I sell at an 862
then a multi-billion dollar automotive
manufacturer is for a vehicle that is
transporting police politicians and well
okay maybe people don't care if they
know the location of their politician
but you get the idea that's it for today
and as always I hope you learn something
I'll see you in the next video bye now
by the way a little aside here I am
announcing the creation of a consumer
protection wikii I've done these videos
in this channel where I actually read
through this stuff in this video I go
through this entire thing in detail
where where I go through the
announcements from Nitsa I go through
legal documents I go through all these
scams and garbage that I talk about I
have citations for them but it's in a
video I want this stuff to be in an
easily browsable Weeki format so every
single one of these videos where there's
over a thousand of them going dating
back 12 years going over consumer
advocacy I want to have one location
that's very easily searchable that
documents every single instance of a
company screwing over its customers and
the problem is the modern consumer stuff
like when you go to CNET when you go to
Consumer Reports at JD Power sometimes
you get something good sometimes you
don't but they don't really mention
these types of issues they don't mention
the device spying on you they don't
mention that the device has to be
connected to the internet to work and
they sure as don't update their
articles to tell you when that
manufacturer has decided to try and
force forced arbitration into it take
away your ability to use your device
unless you agree to forced arbitration
take away features that were advertised
with the device unless you start paying
more money as a subscription for you
later or that they have the ability to
do that CU it's connected to the
internet this is something that Cory
talked about over 20 years ago how there
were Outlets that were reviewing these
products and not even making mention of
it I would like to create a centralized
database in the form of this type of
open Weeki where everybody can
contribute to it and I'm going to be
doing my best going forward to log every
single thing I discuss in this Channel
and I also want to go back and go
through all of my old videos find those
citations in the description and add
every single instance into this I
realized that this is a total pipe dream
but one of my goals here would be to
create something that has so much power
among ordinary consumers the consumer
reports of the 21st century that goes
over all the new ways that consumers get
that people actually make buying
decisions based on it and more
importantly maybe it actually sways what
manufacturers do again is it a total
pipe dream absolutely but that still
that doesn't mean that I don't want to
try I'm very excited about this I'm
going to be setting up a media Weeki
instance soon I am not very good at
administering these things and I sure as
have no idea how to professionally
run a Weeki but I will be trying if you
have any advice please do email me at
YouTube rossan group.com that's two s's
and two NS YouTube rossan group.com if
you have more experience than me or
which is very very low bar here or you
have any good advice from running a week
yourself and kind of understanding what
the pitfalls are of trying to do
something like this or the traps that
newbies fall into I I am all ears and no
ego here I know that I'm an idiot when
it comes to running these things and I
need your help if I'm going to turn this
into something great that's it for today
and as always I hope you learned
something I'll see you on the next video
bye now